Logic question that involves all three logic types.

[lathlee]

Hi admin, sorry to bothet u with thia question sort again,

What about "Legally, police can arrest suspected Terrorist these days
?"
I know dave advised me to think conditionality when it is effective to do so, and there is such thing as weak degree and stronger degree of conditionality, but this one seems like weak level conditionality in my opinion. But i wasn't sure. So i am asking haha.
This is why i am bot sure, other way of expressing above sentence is

"In legalistic condtion, police can arrest suspected criminals.
CuZ the latter version seems to contain more stronger nature of conditionality. But they mean the same. Isnt it

[lathlee]

Hello. Is the phrase

"Even if " is sufficient conditional indicator?

I had a difficult time with Section 1 of Prep test 53's Q2. which is Point at issue Question, due to the phrase even if, bears conditional relationship or not. as in that if I knew if this bore strong enough conditionality, I would not have wasted such significant time in this question.

[Dave Killoran]

Hi admin, sorry to bothet u with thia question sort again,

What about "Legally, police can arrest suspected Terrorist these days
?"
I know dave advised me to think conditionality when it is effective to do so, and there is such thing as weak degree and stronger degree of conditionality, but this one seems like weak level conditionality in my opinion. But i wasn't sure. So i am asking haha.
This is why i am bot sure, other way of expressing above sentence is

"In legalistic condtion, police can arrest suspected criminals.
CuZ the latter version seems to contain more stronger nature of conditionality. But they mean the same. Isnt it

Ask yourself, what do you know about the police? Ahh, that they can legally arrest suspected terrorists these days. thus:


Police: Legally arrest suspected terrorists these days


Remember, the simplest test is that the one that tells you something else is the sufficient condition

[Dave Killoran]

Hello. Is the phrase

"Even if " is sufficient conditional indicator?

I had a difficult time with Section 1 of Prep test 53's Q2. which is Point at issue Question, due to the phrase even if, bears conditional relationship or not. as in that if I knew if this bore strong enough conditionality, I would not have wasted such significant time in this question.

I'm not going to refer to that problem here (there's a different area for specific questions from individual PrepTests) but "even if" is typically a sufficient indicator. For example:

Even if John doesn't go to the concert, he will still buy a shirt.

ConcertJohn Buy Shirt



Even if we fly to Paris, we won't pass over Germany .

Fly to Paris Pass over Germany


Thanks!

[lathlee]

Dave,

As Always, Thank you so much, Caring for this minor detail from someone like you is an honor especially for someone like me. Thx always

[lathlee]

Just making sure,

Only when = Only if, as in of necessary condition indicator, right. I saw a lot of Only when these days in argument stimulus.

[Dave Killoran]

Just making sure,

Only when = Only if, as in of necessary condition indicator, right. I saw a lot of Only when these days in argument stimulus.

Yes, you are correct! Good job!

[lathlee]

Hi. Isn't

As long as and as soon as create powerful enough sufficiency?

as in EX: As long as he is there, I won't be there.

He (negative) I

as in EX: As soon as she arrives, we will leave.

She arrives We leave

[Dave Killoran]

Hi. Isn't

As long as and as soon as create powerful enough sufficiency?

as in EX: As long as he is there, I won't be there.

He (negative) I

as in EX: As soon as she arrives, we will leave.

She arrives We leave

Hi Lathlee,

Yes, these are acting in this way. "As long as" is roughly equivalent to "if," and "as soon as" is equivalent to "when." Both terms are saying that while these things occur (sufficient condition) then something else will occur (the necessary, which is then specific elsewhere in the sentence).

Good eye!

[lathlee]

Hi. Dave.

I only caught those rough equivalences cuz of your advice, try to think sufficient and necessary conditional relation terms when you can in real life in all matters; I only could find those equivalences were by Just following your advice.

So Thank you.

Anyways, that being said, I feel bad to ask this: you clarified for everyone that As long as roughly equivalent of If and as soon as the rough equivalent of when.

as long as and as soon as are Not as powerful conditional indicators in a level of If and when in regards to creating conditional relationships, right? although as long as and as soon as can create conditional relationships in many occasions including some occasions in LSAT testing.