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 lathlee
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Hi.

as Dave and many of staff knows, I developed a habit of analyzing any speeches I hear into LSAT terms these days because I am so into do well in LSAT. anyways, I studied politics as undergraduate; I have a habit of listening to prior public office figures' speeches time to time.

In this video clip:

President Bill Clinton : To be fair for president George , some of it(budget defecit) was gonna happen due to 9/11 and need to go to Afghanistan


2:55-03:00 , https://vimeo.com/44744329

ever since I heard this statement, I felt conditional relationship can be made. Originally, I was not going to ask cuz I do not want my bad habit of thinking everything in LSAT terms ; asking whether I am thinking correctly , then bothering other people due to my excessive thinking. which Dave kindly referred that I am overdoing it and got me in troubles prior. But it has been rining in my brain in longest time and driving me crazy; so I musk ask. (Sorry)

is it correct to analyze as which of the following manner


1. Fair ----> president George.

or

2. Fairpresident George :arrow: some of it(budget deficit) was gonna happen due to 9/11 and need to go to Afghanistan

or

3. The conditional nature in this relationship is not that strong anyways that it is not worth bothering to create a conditional relationship in actual LSAT if I see such a statement .
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 Dave Killoran
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lathlee wrote:...ever since I heard this statement, I felt conditional relationship can be made. Originally, I was not going to ask cuz I do not want my bad habit of thinking everything in LSAT terms ; asking whether I am thinking correctly , then bothering other people due to my excessive thinking. which Dave kindly referred that I am overdoing it and got me in troubles prior.
Hi Lathlee,

It's #3 here: the conditional relationship is too weak to worry about :-D How do we know that? The use of the word "some" in the middle of the statement. That pulls down the force of the statement into something far less useful in typical conditional terms. A good example where you can't put a square peg (this statement) in a round hole (conditional reasoning/diagram)!

Thanks!
 lathlee
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Dave, thank you so much always for caring for this trivial question. but I have to ask what do you mean " A good example where you can't put a square peg (this statement) in a round hole (conditional reasoning/diagram)!" I do not understand this statement means as in I understand what this sentence means but I really don't see how this sentence applies to the situation i asked.
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 Dave Killoran
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lathlee wrote:Dave, thank you so much always for caring for this trivial question. but I have to ask what do you mean " A good example where you can't put a square peg (this statement) in a round hole (conditional reasoning/diagram)!" I do not understand this statement means as in I understand what this sentence means but I really don't see how this sentence applies to the situation i asked.
Hi Lathlee,

I mean that you are again trying to force diagramming onto something that doesn't need to be diagrammed :-D It goes back to our long-running conversation that while conditional reasoning appears everywhere, in most cases it's not the controlling reasoning form being used. this is a great example where if I was hearing/reading this speech, I wouldn't convert this into conditional terms.

Thanks!
 lathlee
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hi. i just want to make this matter crystal clear :

requires vs is (are) required

1. winning requires your contribution

winning :arrow: contribution.

2. winning is required your contribution.

your contribution :arrow: winning.

am i correct?
 lathlee
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also, i am just maksing sure.... The only thing I would like to see happen in our country is unity.

it is correct diagramm : I would like to see happen in our country :arrow: Unity. Right. Ever since I saw this statement, it messed my mind. I have to ask; sorry to trouble you again.
 Adam Tyson
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Both correct, lathlee! You're hitting on all cylinders here. Well done!
 lathlee
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Sorry i ask this, but how does condinality function in this occasion:

When it is necessary, a friend provides a tough advice when the situation calls it.

Is it

A situation calls :arrow: a friend provides a tough advice.

Also how does when it is necessary. Work in sentences with condindionality elements
 Nathothered
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thank you guys for all the answers and for those really good questions asked. i was wondering if i'm allowed to ask some questions myself as i'm a new member and i'm still not familiar with musclegurus community rules. thanks again!
Last edited by Nathothered on Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:06 am, edited 3 times in total.
 Amy Uecker
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Hi Nathothered!

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