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 lathlee
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My Questions are from LR Bible Flash Card (Prior Version, I suspect it's 2009 Version) (Number in the bracket are the number in these Flash Cards)

(80) All of the Following can be properly inferred from the information above Except:

the back answer is MUST be TRUE Except
Which I believe this Q TYPE should be classified as a Cannot be True

ALSO in (81) Each of the following Principles is logically consistent with the doctor's conclusion Except
The back-answer says it is Cannot be True which I think if anything, according to POWERSCORE Lesson's philosophy, this Q should be classified as a Must be True-PR.
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 Dave Killoran
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Hi Lathlee,

Let's look at both:

#80: Careful here! Must Be True Except = Not Necessarily True (which could be Cannot, but doesn't have to be).

#81: The card is again correct. Consistent is the same as Could Be True, so the answer here is a Could Be True Except, which is the same as Cannot Be True.

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 lathlee
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But Dave, this is what I don't get: (80) Question says could be TRUE............... EXCEPT. Powerscore students were taught that it is cannot be true.

(81)'s questioning word's dealing with certainty is actually stronger than (80)..... in another question type... if we remove the word principle from in this (81) question, "logically consistent with the information above is" basically means this is a must be true question/ most supported question type.
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 Dave Killoran
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lathlee wrote:But Dave, this is what I don't get: (80) Question says could be TRUE............... EXCEPT. Powerscore students were taught that it is cannot be true.

(81)'s questioning word's dealing with certainty is actually stronger than (80)..... in another question type... if we remove the word principle from in this (81) question, "logically consistent with the information above is" basically means this is a must be true question/ most supported question type.
Hi Lathlee, this is what I see when I look at card 80:
LRB Card 80.png
Our Publications Department is checking to see if there were other printings, but they don't think there were.

As for 81, my explanation above is correct. Consistent always means Could Be True :-D

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 lathlee
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Thank u so much for the kind answer, will get back to you with a scanned image of relevant area. Haha
 lathlee
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Hi. Dave, i don't think i need to attach the scanned image it is exactly as same as you told ; now i get where the miscommunication occurred; it is not the problem of misprinting but miscommunication
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Q. Analysis of the Questions

identify the question type:

All of the following can be properly inferred from the information above EXcept:
(Front pg of 80)
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A: Must be true except (exactly as same as the attached scanned image you posted it for us)

(Backpage of pg 80)
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the card Q stated: All of the following CAN BE properly inferred from the information above EXCEPT

Can be true (1-100%) except means Cannot be true (0%) that's what Powerscore teaches us; this is what i am saying.

must be true (100%) except mean not necessarily true (0-99%)

IF Q said: All of the following MUST BE properly inferred EXCEPT OR All of the following MOST STRONGLY CAN BE INFERRED FROM EXCEPT (rough equivalent of traditional most supported) ........if question asked the following manner yeah, I can see the correct answer for (pg 80) why it is must be true except (I believe)

I guess i am not seeing something right, what am i doing wrong? Haha

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 SamSachsDE
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I'm not sure if this will help, but when I read the stem I made up my own question in my head.

Sam has driven rental cars while on vacation and has driven all 4 cars owned by the rental company. The only rental company where Sam vacations owns a blue car, a red car, a silver car, and a orange car.

All of the following can be properly inferred from the information above Except:

A. Sam drove a red car
B. Sam drove a blue car
C. Sam drove a Corvette
D. Sam drove a Silver Car
E. Sam drove an orange car

My example is super easy, but it helped me think through what the stem was really asking. It's asking me to find 4 statements that can be inferred(Must me True) and 1 statement that can not be inferred(Not necessarily True). I could have rented a Corvette in one of the 4 colors from the rental place. We just weren't able to properly infer it from the stimulus. The stimulus said I rented all 4 cars, and the 4 car colors, so we can infer I drove a car in each of those colors.

If it had been asking a Cannot be true question it wouldn't follow logically. There was nothing that stated I did not drive a corvette, or the 4 cars weren't corvettes, or my vacation spot banned them. It just didn't give us information to make a proper inference that I drove one.


Another issue might be confusing CAN BE TRUE with CAN BE PROPERLY INFERRED. I would say(powerscore people let me know if I'm wrong) that the CAN BE is not as important as the PROPERLY INFERRED in this stem.
 lathlee
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Hey bro, great help. I truly appreciate it and it was helpful. However, I guess the biggest problem generating area for me is ur last paragraph:

"Another issue might be confusing CAN BE TRUE with CAN BE PROPERLY INFERRED. I would say(powerscore people let me know if I'm wrong) that the CAN BE is not as important as the PROPERLY INFERRED in this stem."

Thx
 Adam Tyson
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I agree, SamSachsDE - "can be true" simply means that an answer choice is possible, whereas "can be properly inferred" means that an answer choice is proven by the facts in the stimulus (a Must Be True answer rather than a Could Be True answer). Pay close attention to that distinction lathlee! You're getting there, as shown by your improvement to date!

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