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I chose E...I didn't like it, but I didn't like anything else either.

I think reading through them the first time, I thought C fell outside of the scope of the argument. But I guess that per se doesn't matter...since it is a strengthen question, we can, and often do, bring in outside info to strengthen the argument.

But what is actually the thinking behind C? Is it that if it is only small tornadoes accounting for the doubling in reports, that better detection mechanisms would presumably allow us to detect smaller and smaller tornadoes?

Please offer your sagely guidance.

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Young Cord
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Hi Young Cord,

In order to answer your question, let's break down the argument being made in the stimulus. We are presented with a paradox that the meteorologist attempts to resolve by using causal reasoning, in order to prove an effect.

Paradox: Twice the number tornadoes are being reported today than in the 50's, but same number of tornadoes are actually occurring.

Cause: Better technology.

Effect/Resolution to Paradox: Greater % of tornadoes being reported.

And we are asked to strengthen that causal link. Answer choice (C) does this by stating that the same number of medium and large tornadoes are being reported today as in the 50's, which leaves small tornadoes to make up the difference. Logically, the larger tornadoes would have been the ones most likely to have been reported in the 50's, and the smaller tornadoes would be the ones that only modern technology would notice. Now this doesn't 100% prove the conclusion (it could simply be that there are more small tornadoes and the same number of larger ones today) but it does help make it more likely to be true, which is all that is required of a correct Strengthen question answer choice.

Hope this clears things up!
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Ok scool thanks!
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Hello,
I am wondering if someone can explain why answer choice A is incorrect? I followed a similar pattern of logic to the one James described for choice C. I inferred that if the amount of physical damage caused by the average tornado has remained constant, then the chances of the tornado being reported were also likely constant (i.e. tornadoes not more likely to occur in highly populated areas/less severe tornadoes/etc.). This would leave only better technology/better meteorologists as the explanation for why the actual number of tornadoes has increased, rather than the number reported. Is this too specious of an inference?

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I see where you are going with that analysis, gillwei, but I think you are relying too much on helping that answer with additional information not provided in the stimulus. What is the connection between the amount of damage and the percentage of tornadoes being reported? None is made here, and no assumptions should be made in order to justify this answer choice. So what if an "average tornado" (whatever that is: average size? average duration? are we talking about the total amount of damage divided by all the known tornadoes?) causes the same amount of damage as it used to? How does this help the argument that better technology is the cause of the increase instead of there just being more of them?

Also, think about how averages work. If we look at the physical damage cause by the average tornado, we could still have a lot more tornadoes out there, and a corresponding increase in the amount of damage they cause, and still come to the same average amount of damage per tornado. This answer doesn't tell us that it's better tech, rather than more tornadoes, that accounts for the increase in reporting.

Answer choice C needs no additional assumptions or help. If it is true that the number of large and medium tornadoes has remained constant, that strengthens the claim that the total hasn't changed. It implies that the increase is solely in the reporting of small tornadoes, and that would make sense if the number of them hasn't actually changed but our ability to find them has improved. It doesn't PROVE the conclusion, because there actually could be a massive increase in small tornadoes, but it at least should make us feel a little better about the conclusion, and that is all we need in a strengthen answer.

I hope that helps! Don't let this one blow you away!
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Would this be classified as a Supporter type or a Defender type question? I thought it would be a Defender question - but I'm having difficulty pinpointing to exactly what I should be looking for (an appropriate "prephrase") when I'm searching for the correct answer choice.

Also, I've read the responses above - they were helpful, but I still have one more question.
Is there a way to solve this without thinking about the "small tornadoes"? The explanation that our ability to find tornadoes refers to our ability to find "small" tornadoes, as opposed to large/medium ones actually sounds a lot more complicated than what I thought would be involved in an LSAT question - or at least, it's more complicated and counterintuitive than any other question I've solved so far (and I've done ~60 PTs so far). In fact, this is still confusing to me, even after I found out the answer. I'm just wondering if there's a simpler way to understand why (C) is the right choice.

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 Adam Tyson
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This question is neither a Supporter nor a Defender, student987, because those terms refer to the two approaches to Assumption questions, and this is a Strengthen question! In that sense, then, you could say it is a supporter, because we are looking for something that supports the conclusion. After all, the question stem did ask us to pick the answer that "provides the most support."

As to the prephrase, you wouldn't normally come up with anything so detailed as to be thinking about small, medium, and large tornadoes. Just look for new information that helps support the claim that there are not, in fact, more tornadoes. Answer C does that because if there were actually more tornadoes happening, we would expect to see more at every level being reported. Since we aren't reporting more of the bigger ones, that helps support the idea that there are not, in fact, more of them.
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Hi,

I'm still trying to figure out why E is incorrect.

If the geographic range had been increased, it could've resulted in more tornadoes being reported/detected

If it had shrunk, it could've resulted in less being reported/detected

Is this because geographic RANGE where tornadoes are MOST PREVALENT =/= the geographic area on the whole for all tornadoes - most prevalent or not?

Thanks for all your help! Self study would be hell without this forum!

- Eva
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We're glad to hear this is helping, Eva!

The stimulus is arguing that the number of tornadoes hasn't changed. There are the same number as always, but we are now better able to find them, and that's why more are being reported. So, same number, better reporting.

As to answer E, I'm going to paraphrase it a bit. It's saying that tornadoes are still happening in the same place as always. Does that do anything to help support the idea that we are finding more than we used to? Or could it be that there are actually more than before, still in the same place as always, maybe in the famed "tornado alley" in the central U.S.? This answer really doesn't do anything to convince us that one of those possibilities is more likely than the other, so it's not a good Strengthen answer.

It looks like you are approaching this one like an Assumption question and applying a version of the Negation Technique, and while that can be helpful to better understand these answers, it's not an ideal technique for either Strengthen or Weaken questions. It can help, but sometimes it doesn't, and we may just end up confused as a result. If we negate this answer, we get that the tornadoes are happening in different places over time - smaller or larger ranges, different places, etc. Does that do anything to hurt the claim that we now have better reporting, or help show that there ARE more than there used to be? Again, I find myself scratching my head, because it could still go either way.

Back to the correct answer, answer C - if the number of medium and large tornadoes being reported has stayed the same, that strengthens the idea that the total number has stayed the same. The increase in reported tornadoes is solely attributable to more small ones being reported, and that suggests that it's our ability to find them has improved. Think of it as proving that we got better glasses, or a stronger magnifying glass, so now we can see what we were missing before!

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