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 lathlee
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Dear powerscore

Powerscore team has expressed how difficult to come up with fresh new type lsat questions from lsac (especially in a manner that would reward strong lsat takers from non-strong lsat skill capability possesors) which is the reason lsac introduced the new limitation rule since 2019.

Given lsac prep plus do not cover pt1-18,a,b,c, f97,
I know Dave always said it is good idea to study lsat preptests , old versions, likes of pt 1-50, even though studying recent lsat is preferable

DUE TO Lsac has reused as a variation of old tests questions, many times in recent times;

I start to wonder it would be even better idea even more than the past, when lsac prep plus was not available, studying these past prep tests ( pt1-18,a,b,c, f97,) in order to prepare for the upcoming future lsats due to the following rationales (possibily good idea).

In LR, back in those area of PrepTest, some questions were constructed in non-conventional words and difficult to decipher (not the question stem, but the questions) therefore testtaker would waste a long time to decipher or get panicked

In LG, there were a lot of the rare types lg loaded which powerscore lg bible stated as the rare types that appear not frequently.

So my first reaction when I saw what are NOT included lsac prep plus deal....these following thoughts appeared in my brain : Maybe the intention of lsac NOT including these early prep tests in lsac prep plus deal is possibily to catch some test takers off guard with the tricky parts that I stated in these prep tests. By let them falsly believe the subscribers of lsac prep plus to think that they have all the past references to prepare for upcoming lsat; many test takers as a result become unaware of these difficult parts. Thus successfully catch many of them off guard.

OR am I just OVERthinking?
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 Dave Killoran
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You are not overthinking, and I had the same thought as well and it extends to PT21 as well:)

And, for the time being, those tests are still available in digital form at https://www.powerscore.com/lsat/publica ... tal-tests/

We will have to stop publicly selling them at some point (although anyone who purchases them now will still have access even after they are not being publicly sold).

Thanks!
 lathlee
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Dear Dave,

I feel vindicated and God blessed me for once using my anxiety for possible positive side and I must thank you and powerscore for that

Due to my anxiety of not possibly getting off guard by lsac, ever since I saw the lists of powerscore list of all the lists of hardest rc, lr, lg, appeared in lsat history, i went a great deal of troubles, including even some instances of self-esteem humblings, and patience to collect all those features (which I informed you before once in my other post ---- https://forum.powerscore.com/lsat/viewt ... 12&t=26189 -------- ). As you can assume, due to the nature of those hardest parts are really distributed in all over the places in lsat publications, so by that effort of trying to collect all these hardest lsat parts, which as a result, I currently own and collected the paper version of those really early lsat prep tests (PT01-19, and a,b,c,f97). Not exaggerating, I truly went great deal of painful moments to own all these , now I feel all worth it. Thank you.
 lathlee
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Actually Dave, I read your explanations of why pt 21 not included in prep plus deal, in powerscore breaking news post as well as your explanation one above , pt 21 hasn't included yet in lsac prep plus.

BUT I still don't get why pt 21 not included nor will take long time to convert and included in prep plus deal (not at all inferring your post is difficult to deciphering; it is my comprehension skill at fault).

In terms of catching some test takers off guard regards: i know pt 21 lg section, game 3 and 4 are quite difficult especially game 4 being featured as powerscore list of one of most difficult lg ever. But it is not like pt 31 cd lg nor pt 62 window lg, featuring legendary infamous lg, acknowledged by all test takers as the most difficult kind of thing type, nor pt21 rc doesn't have killer reading passage. I understand pt 21 lr possess super difficult lr questions more than other usual other prep test series. But given that those are individual lr difficult questions , it is necessarily NOT equal to more difficult lr sections than other prepTest NOR the hardest lr section ever.

In addition I thought if any pt has difficult to transfer to electronic other prep tests with more weird questioning is more difficult than pt21. If anything pt with lg question feature graphic features are more difficult to transfer or Rc passages with super long texts. In addition earlier than pt 21, likes of pt 20,19 are already transferred (published earlier than pt 21)

So in terms of lsacs intention of Not including pt 21 by the rationale of 1.possibily catch off guard some test takers 2.this pt is particularly more difficult to transfer to electronically, doesn't make sense to me considering these are the two only good enough reasons I see lsac not included pt 21 in prep plus deal. Which pt 21 doesn't meet neither category.
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 Dave Killoran
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lathlee wrote:Actually Dave, I read your explanations of why pt 21 not included in prep plus deal, in powerscore breaking news post as well as your explanation one above , pt 21 hasn't included yet in lsac prep plus.

BUT I still don't get why pt 21 not included nor will take long time to convert and included in prep plus deal (not at all inferring your post is difficult to deciphering; it is my comprehension skill at fault).
The interesting thing here is that I conveyed in the post and podcast is what LSAC told us was the reason. Now could that be the reason? Sure, but it doesn't have to be the only reason. Perhaps they have a test coming up that repurposes a part of PT21 and so they don't want 21 out there for another few months. Because seriously, digitizing a test takes no more than a single day of work (we do it all the time)! Thus I've suspected that the absence of PT21 in that lineup is more than a little inexplicable given their explanation.



lathlee wrote:In terms of catching some test takers off guard regards: i know pt 21 lg section, game 3 and 4 are quite difficult especially game 4 being featured as powerscore list of one of most difficult lg ever. But it is not like pt 31 cd lg nor pt 62 window lg, featuring legendary infamous lg, acknowledged by all test takers as the most difficult kind of thing type, nor pt21 rc doesn't have killer reading passage. I understand pt 21 lr possess super difficult lr questions more than other usual other prep test series. But given that those are individual lr difficult questions , it is necessarily NOT equal to more difficult lr sections than other prepTest NOR the hardest lr section ever.
I don't think difficulty is necessarily the measure of why they wouldn't release it. It would be more as I described above—a reuse of some piece of it. So, that is plausible and could catch some people off-guard.

Of course, it could be that LSAC is incredibly disorganized and simply didn't want to take the time for those other tests. I've certainly seen many signs of disorganization there in the last year and perhaps the stated explanation is in fact the real one :-D

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